In the wake of these unprecedented times and historical events, it is even more important to leave your mark of justice and integrity in this world.

That’s why I believe it’s beyond pivotal to speak up against injustices that are happening in the world and within our own respective communities and cultures.

Today, I want to talk about a very crucial topic, that is detrimental to our fight against racial injustice.

It is the topic of colorism.

Joined by the lovely Dr. Sarah L. Webb of Colorism Healing, this exclusive episode is a true beacon of hope for us all.

Dr. Webb generously enlightens us with her reservoir of wisdom on this very serious and deep-rooted issue.

Iyanla Vanzant stated in her “Candid Talk About Colorism” on the OWN Network that:

“Colorism is a historical, ancestral and generational tool of division and oppression.”

Art by Augustine Brunos, depicting the different shades of Black women in the 18th century Caribbean colonies

Colorist hierarchies: the cast system in India places darker skin people at the bottom of their unequal social structure

According to the Merrimack-Webster dictionary, Colorism is:

“Prejudice or discrimination especially within a racial or ethnic group favoring people with lighter skin over those with darker skin.”

Historically, this is linked to colonialism, slavery and the institutionalised system of racism built to protect white supremacy.

As we move forward as a collective, it’s important to understand how this model has permeated every sphere of our society and expose it for the destructive vice that it is.

In times like these, where people are being more understanding and receptive, it’s absolutely necessary to speak up and change the narrative.

Black is beautiful and dark skin is precious.

It is scientifically proven that Melanin is a most precious asset. This valuable pigment, that gives human skin its color, cost more than gold!

So when dark skin tones are vilified, mocked or dismissed, ignore the ignorance because the darker you are, the more melanin you have. And the more melanin one has, well let’s just say, it’s scientifically a natural blessing.


However, because of the unconscious and conscious bias that fuels racist beliefs and schemas, it’s fundamental to assess the issue of Colorism from a solution-based perspective.

I’m so delighted to be able to share my exchange with a phenomenal expert on the topic, Dr. Sarah L. Webb!

Below are the questions I asked Dr. Webb, who patiently and kindly answered every one with care, dignity and transparency.


The phenomenon of colorism is so insidious, there are psychological experts and professionals who are currently working to have it recognized as a pathological mental dysfunction.

So it can be clearly established that this issue is international, intercultural and even, dare I say- Neurological? It must be.

And that is why this “Journey To Lovely” podcast interview is so important to me. Because to begin our healing we must begin standing in our truth and expose our own implicit and explicit bias. This enlightening exchange is indeed a call to action!

May this episode be an awakening to find concrete solutions to a very destructive issue.

As you keep scrolling, you will be able to read the transcript of the interview questions.

The full episode is now live on Anchor and Spotify!

Podcast Interview Dr. Sarah L. Webb X Journey To Lovely



Transcript of questions below:

Hello Lovelies! Welcome to a New Episode of the Journey To Lovely podcast!

 I’m Claudrine Arnell, your host and the Founder and Editor-in-Chief of The Journey To Lovely. 

So today we have an amazing special guest, the phenomenal and beautiful Dr. Sarah L. Webbs; who will be enlightening us with her reservoir of wisdom on the very serious, ancestral, historical and generational topic of colorism.

So with no further due, 

Q1] Greetings Dr. Sarah L. Webbs, of Colorism Healing, it’s such an honour to have you here today on the ‘Journey to Lovely’ podcast! Let’s begin by learning a little bit about you. So would you Please share your story with us and how you began your ‘Journey’ as an advocate for equality and specifically, against colorism? 

Q2). Thanks for sharing. How would you define colorism and can you tell us what is the difference between colorism and racism? 

Q3)- Studies have shown that colorism is an international and multicultural issue, which has permeated all spheres of society. One study conducted by Matthew Harrison, an African American doctoral student at the University of Georgia, found that a darker skin color negatively influenced chances of employment. Can you share additional insights on how this phenomenon proliferates from education to jobs to housing, to 

economic status, quality of life, social status, media representation, etc? 

Q4)- This destructive vice has infiltrated every sphere of society and is prevalent in many cultures, nations, regions around the world (from North America to South America, to Africa and Asia) how can we address this worldwide problem on the micro and macro levels? 

Q5] As the founder of the “Colorism Healing” platform, a groundbreaking educational and interactive space, what were some challenges that you faced when you began your “Journey” and how did you overcome them? 

Q6) With the current global climate, the Black Lives Matter protests and fight for racial justice, how can the media, which has traditionally promoted racist schemas and stereotypes, positively implement sustainable change for equality? 

Q7] Part of the Journey To Lovely’s mission is to uplift women by encouraging unity and living an authentic life, how can we shift the narrative in our communities and promote honest dialogue around the reality and effects of colorism? 

Q8] The fight against colorism is on an institutional and individual level where, like racism, the beliefs can be conscious or unconscious. This truly makes it a complex and even intimidating topic to address (where it’s often implicit bias and not always explicit). Was there a defining moment that pushed you to speak up? Was there a pivotal time that pushed

you to take a stand against this vile attack on our humanity? 

Q9] The octopus of white supremacy has many tentacles: corrupt capitalism, slavery, barbaric colonialism, racism, religious abuse, racist media propaganda, biased educational systems and colorism. Knowing that they are intrinsically linked to one another, what is your educational approach to raise awareness on the issue? 


Q10] What words of advice or encouragement would you have for young dark skin girls growing up in racist and colorist societies around the world and what are healthy ways to cope and overcome negative programming and discriminatory practices? 

Q11] Thank you so much for sharing such enriching insights with us! What’s next on your “Journey To Lovely” (future goals and aspirations)? 

Q12] That’s awesome! Truly wish you the best!

Q13] How can we keep up with you?


In closing, during these unprecedented times, if you could share a ‘message of hope’ with the world what would it be? 

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 It was a true honor and pleasure to interview the amazing Dr. Webb!

I am so happy we were able to connect online for such a necessary and therapeutic discussion.

I look forward to the creation of more safe spaces for women of color and specifically dark skin Black women to speak up boldly and unapologetically.

Did you enjoy the podcast episode? Have you experienced colorism? How has colorism impacted your life? We’re you enlightened by this article? What actions are you taking to create sustainable change in your life?

Share your thoughts below!

And as always, thanks so much for checking in!

Love and blessings,


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